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Philosopher · Antiquity

Xunzi

c. 310–235 BC · Confucianism; the realist wing

Pre-Christian Confucian

A Confucian master whose works were kept outside the canon after the Song for his doctrine that nature is bad; Nostra Aetate 2 commends what is true and holy in the Chinese traditions, and the Jesuits read him as the Confucian foil to Mencius.

Xunzi, the last great Confucian of the Warring States and teacher of the Legalists Han Fei and Li Si, held against Mencius that human nature is bad: left to itself it pursues profit, envy and the senses, and goodness is “artifice” (wei), the product of ritual, teachers and accumulated study, as a warped board is straightened by steaming. The rites were created by the sage kings to apportion goods and regulate desires, and they are to be observed for the order and dignity they bring, not for any effect on spirits; the “Discourse on Heaven” teaches that Heaven's course is constant, that it does not exist for the sage Yao or cease for the tyrant Jie, that omens mean nothing and that the gentleman should master nature rather than pray to it. His essays on rectifying names, on dispelling obsession and on music are the most systematic Confucian philosophy before the Song.

Why he matters: He is the Confucian who makes the case for ritual, law, education and hierarchy against any appeal to innate goodness, and so the ancestor of every realist reading of Chinese thought; a Catholic reader meets in him both an Augustinian suspicion of unformed desire and an Enlightenment naturalism about religion. Ricci answered his doctrine of nature in The True Meaning of the Lord of Heaven, and modern Catholic sinologists have treated him as the test of whether Confucianism needs Heaven at all.

Where to be careful

His Heaven is impersonal nature without providence, his rites are human inventions without reference to spirits, and his account of a nature bad by birth and remade by human artifice alone leaves no place for a Creator, for grace or for a goodness of nature that sin wounded but did not destroy (Trent, Session 5; CCC 405). His insistence that moral order is objective, that learning and discipline are the way to virtue, and that government exists for the people remains common ground.

Reading

  • Xunzi: The Complete Text
    Xunzi (trans. Eric L. Hutton) · The whole book; read “Human Nature Is Bad,” “Discourse on Heaven” and “Discourse on Ritual” first.
  • Xunzi: Basic Writings
    Xunzi (trans. Burton Watson) · The main essays in a short, readable selection.
  • The True Meaning of the Lord of Heaven
    Matteo Ricci, SJ · Ricci's seventh chapter argues for the goodness of human nature against the view Xunzi represents, and for a Heaven that is a personal Lord.

Documented positions

Where this thinker stands on each dispute the test covers.

Settled teaching Its center Open question Beyond teaching, not condemned Condemned error
I

God and Being · What is, and whence it is.

Can reason know that God exists? Fideism or agnosticism
Fideism or agnosticism Natural theology
How is God related to the world? Pantheism or emanation
Pantheism or emanation Creation from nothing
Is the world governed by purpose? Chance and mechanism
Chance and mechanism Providence and final causes
Do natures and essences really exist? Nominalism
Nominalism Realism
II

Faith, Reason and Truth · How we know, and whom we trust.

Faith and reason: who has the last word? Rationalism
Rationalism Fideism
Where does knowledge begin? Senses and abstraction
Senses and abstraction Illumination and innate ideas
Is truth objective? Objective truth
Relativism and pragmatism Objective truth
Who interprets revelation? Living Tradition and Magisterium
Private judgment Living Tradition and Magisterium
III

The Human Person · Soul, body, freedom and the Fall.

Is there a spiritual soul? Mind is brain
Mind is brain Immortal spiritual soul
Is the body really you? Body–soul unity
Dualism Body–soul unity
Are you free? Free will
Determinism Free will
How fallen is human nature? Totally depraved
Totally depraved Basically good
The body and its desires Between
Contempt for the flesh Desire as its own law
Person and community Collectivism
Individualism Collectivism
Marriage, sex and the body's meaning Given by nature and grace
Given by nature and grace Defined by consent and identity
What is suffering for? An evil to be relieved
An evil to be relieved A share in the Cross
IV

The Moral Life · Law, virtue, conscience and the good.

Is morality objective and knowable? Natural law
Relativism Natural law
Why is the good good? Eternal law (intellectualism)
Divine command (voluntarism) Eternal law (intellectualism)
Are some acts always wrong? Intrinsically evil acts
Consequentialism Intrinsically evil acts
Rules or character? Morality of virtue and beatitude
Morality of obligation Morality of virtue and beatitude
What is conscience? Conscience bound to truth
Autonomous conscience Conscience bound to truth
In doubtful cases Between
Rigorism Laxism
What is happiness? Earthly flourishing
Earthly flourishing Beatitude in God
VI

Church and Society · Authority, the state, wealth and the nation.

Church and state Social kingship of Christ
Laicism Social kingship of Christ
The economic order Socialism
Socialism Laissez-faire capitalism
Where does authority come from? Authority from God
Social contract Authority from God
Reform or tradition? Guided by tradition
Remake by reason Guided by tradition
The nation and the Church Nation or race first
Nation or race first Nation does not matter
Which form of government best suits a Christian people? Monarchy and hierarchy
Monarchy and hierarchy Democracy and participation
May a Christian take up the sword? Yes: war can be just and sometimes a duty
Never: the way of the Cross is nonviolence Yes: war can be just and sometimes a duty
VII

Worship, Prayer and the Two Lungs · Liturgy, icons, the Spirit, and the See of Peter.

Liturgical development Receive and develop organically
Reconstruct and innovate Receive and develop organically
Contemplation or action? Action: the apostolate and the works of mercy
Action: the apostolate and the works of mercy Contemplation: the one thing needful

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